Re: West Virginia teachers strike
[Re: Kyt]
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I personally know a WV teacher who has 2 kids and qualifies for food stamps and WIC or whatever that program is. If you don't want to believe that is the case, I can't blame you. I didn't want to believe it either. That WV Gazette article is good information, especially if you read the whole article. One thing it says is the percentage of educator's compensation above the median for the state is helped by THE LOW MEDIAN INCOME IN THE STATE. And also that good teachers can't be attracted and retained when compensation is so low. And that there is a direct correlation between competitive teacher compensation and overall quality of education. Actually teachers are entitled. They are entitled to fair pay and fair management and a safe work environment. It doesn't take much digging into the facts and news of school shootings to see they are not being treated fairly. For those who say the solution is to move to somewhere that pays more--that is one way to avoid the problem. Then those who remain can endure the unfixed problem. An education system going downhill more every day. Or you can "take arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing, end them". Kyt, there's a big difference between WIC and SNAP. WIC is "Women Infants and Children." It is designed for people to get food for newborns and younger children. Mainly stuff like formula pedalyte, and milk. My wife and I made over $100K the year our son was born and qualified for it.
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Re: West Virginia teachers strike
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03/08/18 03:36 PM
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I personally know a WV teacher who has 2 kids and qualifies for food stamps and WIC or whatever that program is. If you don't want to believe that is the case, I can't blame you. I didn't want to believe it either. That WV Gazette article is good information, especially if you read the whole article. One thing it says is the percentage of educator's compensation above the median for the state is helped by THE LOW MEDIAN INCOME IN THE STATE. And also that good teachers can't be attracted and retained when compensation is so low. And that there is a direct correlation between competitive teacher compensation and overall quality of education. Actually teachers are entitled. They are entitled to fair pay and fair management and a safe work environment. It doesn't take much digging into the facts and news of school shootings to see they are not being treated fairly. For those who say the solution is to move to somewhere that pays more--that is one way to avoid the problem. Then those who remain can endure the unfixed problem. An education system going downhill more every day. Or you can "take arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing, end them". Kyt, there's a big difference between WIC and SNAP. WIC is "Women Infants and Children." It is designed for people to get food for newborns and younger children. Mainly stuff like formula pedalyte, and milk. My wife and I made over $100K the year our son was born and qualified for it. Exactly. There's a big difference between a single person making $50k a year and a mother with 2 children making $50k a year. There many factors that go into the equation, not strictly salary amount.
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Re: West Virginia teachers strike
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03/08/18 07:44 PM
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As a teacher in WV who participated in the strike, some of these comments are horrible and misguided at best.
Wkimble1 has no idea but has some good straw man arguments.
Antigov spewing indoctrination ideas he saw on fox news is just as bad. Please enlighten us then. Apparently teaching is the only profession in which people work hard and are underpaid. Yes , please give us your version since you were there ! I don't qet Fox News so please tell me what you have against them while your at it
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Re: West Virginia teachers strike
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None of them I know of only work 9. Most get 4-5 weeks off, same as my buddy who drives a fork lift in a factory, for the same money. You simply do not know what you're talking about. Go talk to a few teachers. They put in countless hours/days/weeks of unpaid overtime and are doing one of the most important jobs in the world. 4-5 weeks off? In the summer? Cmon man. That’s just false. Most of my family are teachers. If they are not golfing....they are fishing. Almost anyone can teach. Get a successful business person who has actually done the job and let them teach...without the mandatory teacher training scams at college. Nobody needs to go to college for four years to teach reading....or math...or anything else. Education was never supposed to be a function of government. It should all be privatized.
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Re: West Virginia teachers strike
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Can you name one country in the world other than possibly a third world country were education isn't publicly funded?
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Re: West Virginia teachers strike
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03/08/18 10:34 PM
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We entrust teachers with such an important job that I wouldn't think they were overpaid if their salaries were double what they are.
The "liberal mind rot" stupidity has reared its ugly, ignorant head one too many times, so far as I'm concerned.
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Re: West Virginia teachers strike
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03/08/18 10:57 PM
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I believe the US spends more money on education than any country yet we rank 24th out of 40 countries tested. How is that possible? No child left behind here. Not so in other countries. We entrust teachers with such an important job that I wouldn't think they were overpaid if their salaries were double what they are.
The "liberal mind rot" stupidity has reared its ugly, ignorant head one too many times, so far as I'm concerned.
Jim Pains me to agree with Jim but he's spot on here. Trying to teach some of you gives me even more respect for what teachers do.
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Re: West Virginia teachers strike
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03/08/18 11:12 PM
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We entrust teachers with such an important job that I wouldn't think they were overpaid if their salaries were double what they are.
The "liberal mind rot" stupidity has reared its ugly, ignorant head one too many times, so far as I'm concerned.
Jim Now that's a real surprise coming from you jimmy
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Re: West Virginia teachers strike
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I believe the US spends more money on education than any country yet we rank 24th out of 40 countries tested. How is that possible? If those numbers are correct then I agree. We seem to be #1 in the world at throwing money at problems and getting no results. Mike
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Re: West Virginia teachers strike
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Should those without children receive a tax break. Why should they pay for your school vouchers?
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